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Temp Sending Unit for S2K cluster

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#1 ·
I am 90% complete with my s2000 cluster swap. However, I have a question about the temperature sending unit. In the helms manual lists the following for the sending unit:
133F should measure about 137 ohms of resistance
185F-212F should measure about 46-30 ohms of resistance

It also says that resistance varies from about 137 ohms at low engine temperature to about 30-46 ohms at high engine temperature.

The helms also gives this description:
The engine coolant temperature gauge has two intersecting coils wound around a permanent magnet rotor. Voltage applied to the coils, through fuse 25, generates a magnetic field. The magnetic field, controlled by the engine coolant temperature gauge sending unit, causes the rotor to rotate and the gauge needle to move. As the resistance in the sending unit varies, current through the gauge coils changes. The gauge needle moves toward the coil with the strongest magnetic field.

Question:
How do I go from all of these ohm measurements to millivolts? I have a k-tuned converter (it does speed, temp, fuel, etc). The s2000 cluster has 7 sections which light up (1 lit up is cold, all 7 is very hot). The sections are tied to millivolts. So I have something like the following:
01) 4000mV
02) 0370mV
03) 0124mV
04) 0093mV
05) 0086mV
06) 0072mV
07) 0062mV
How do I adjust these values properly to have the gauge roughly mimic the factory cluster gauge?
 
#2 ·
So I've done a bit more experimenting. It turns out, the first value has to be 4000mV for some reason. I tried the following values from this website:
1) 4000mV - ?
2) 711mV - 160F
3) 566mV - 175F
4) 453mV - 190F
5) 364mV - 205F
6) 296mV - 220F
7) 242mV - 235F

I let my car idle for awhile and noticed that it was stuck at 4 (190F). Does this seem right to you guys? Would 235F be an appropriate "overheat" state? I think the temps are somewhat reliable as the website I got the conversions from seemed to deal exclusively with s2000 clusters.
 
#3 ·
Another update, those numbers must be incorrect, I drove around and it stayed a 6 and 7 (most of the time at 7). Hopefully, this thread will turn into a solution for any DC owners looking to put in an s2000 cluster. These are the numbers I will be trying next:
01) 4000mV
02) 0700mV
03) 0350mV
04) 0230mV
05) 0130mV
06) 0085mV
07) 0065mV

I'll keep updating this thread as I drive the car. I'm considering trying to find a way to hook up my old temp gauge so I can view them side by side to try to better adjust everything.
 
#4 ·
The big problem is that the sensor curves are different.

You can do one of three things:
1. Live with it.
2. Buy an adapter (Modifry has one I've heard works)
3. Buy and install an S2000 sensor someplace where it can get good temps, and retain the stock sensor for the ECU.
 

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#7 ·
When I ran an Ap1 cluster in my integra I had these voltage readings and never had the temp gauge spring up all the way to hot.. I then switched to an Ap2 cluster in my Integra, I believe Ap2 has 21 bars for the temp gauge.

AP1 Cluster voltage settings
01) 4000mv
02) 0370mv
03) 0124mv
04) 0086mv
05) 0072mv
06) 0063mv
07 0057mv
 
#8 ·
Hi i want to ask something i see your 7th parameter is changed from the factory one , the insteuctions say the 1st and last parameter to remain untouched also i talked with the ktuned representative and said the same thing , why did u change it ? Cz i wanted to change it also but they do not let me