[JustTegIt]

u can also just do multiple drain and fills at short intervals that will essentially change all of the fluid since after drving the new will mix with the old in the TC equaling 1/3 new fluid and 2/3 old, then after another change it will in theory be 1/2 new and 1/2 old...and so on.....

 

[atownakaatl]

where do u put the fluid in?

 

[hpracing007]

the answer is in one of the post on the first page of this thread. It also tells you what you have to use.

 

[tim]

So the flush is pointless for a manual teg?

 

[atownakaatl]

^^^is it???

 

[FlatRate]

where do u put the fluid in?

See the yellow handle for the auto tranny dipstick? Thats where you fill her up.Make sure to use Honda ATF fluid. 3 bottles should do it. Do not overfill.

Quote: tim on May/16/06 So the flush is pointless for a manual teg?


Tim, for the auto its mor crucial as the auto tranny uses to fluids to function. It is itself a hydrolic device. So no fluid, no workie.

In the manual tranny, all it does is lude the gears. Northing more, nothing less. But without it, the tranny also won't work, grinding.

Quote: atownakaatl on May/25/06 ^^^is it???

NO, not pointless as its 2 different things. Do the fluid change.

 

[tim]

Oh I will do the change but not the flush any more. That seems like a waste of money.

 

[FlatRate]

Oh I will do the change but not the flush any more. That seems like a waste of money.

I don't get it? If you are doing the change, you are flushing it.

 

[hpracing007]

maybe he's talking about the different between changing the fluid at home (drain/fill) then a total system flush that that gets all the old fluid out.

I drive an auto and i DO NOT think a drain/fill is pointless. 50% new fluid is better than 100% old fluid.

 

[tim]

maybe he's talking about the different between changing the fluid at home (drain/fill) then a total system flush that that gets all the old fluid out.

I drive an auto and i DO NOT think a drain/fill is pointless. 50% new fluid is better than 100% old fluid.

Precisely, I had honda flush it but if the flush is a waste for the manual where I can just drain it and refill, I will do the latter.

 

[FlatRate]

Precisely, I had honda flush it but if the flush is a waste for the manual where I can just drain it and refill, I will do the latter.

LOL! Thats what I didn't understand Tim. The manual is a drain and refill where as the auto can be either a drain & refill, or full flush.

The DIY for the manual is a total DIY and I don't see why anyone would pay for the job if you know how to do an oil change. Its easier considering you don't even have to worry about a filter. Just drain, then refill as the name says.

 

[oths88]

man i did mine and im pretty sure my tranny is sliping i hoped that the fluid was the problem but its doing the exact same thing

 

[ThirdeYe]

I've recently been debating about whether or not I should just do another drain/fill or actually paying a reputable transmission shop to do a full flush. My car's always had its fluid drained/refilled (3 quarts) every 30k, but it still doesn't feel very smooth. The smoothness always deteriorates after the first few hundred miles again. I want to switch to having all synthetic in the transmission. The last drain/refill I did with Amsoil's universal synthetic atf and it shifted nice and smooth for the first 100 miles or so, then it was back to being a little more harsh (normal?) I'm thinking that since the car's well taken care of, never raced, and always been drained/refilled at 30k I won't have any problems with my transmission crapping out after a full flush. Anyone have any thoughts on what I should do? I have around 130k on the car right now.

 

[tdcmotorsports]

Actually Honda says that it is not proven that a flush is ANY better than a drain and fill. And only recommends drain and fills. Now certain dealerships will do flushes as an extra way of making more income. But according to Honda a drain and fill is just as good. And they also don't want additives put in the transmission, like a lot of the flushing systems come with, such as a Wynn's flush.

I am a Honda Tech, btw.

 

[ThirdeYe]

That's a good point about the additives from flushing machines. I've heard of those. I plan on calling a local reputable shop (they're not the kinda shop out there to steal your money, I've dealt with them before on previous cars) and see what they think about the situation, and if they've had any experience with Honda/Acura transmissions. I respect your input, especially since you're a Honda tech, but wouldn't you rather have 100% new fluid rather than 50%? Also, do you happen to know if a drain/refill is actually 50%? According to the Helm's manual, it takes 2.9 quarts at drain/refill, 6.2 quarts at overhaul, but I'm not sure if that's taking into account the extra amount held by the torque converter.

 

[tdcmotorsports]

I'm not saying a flush is bad, but I'm also not saying that a drain and fill is eaither. Honda says it is perfectly fine to do drain and fills and when they recommend that you change your fluid every x amount of times. They are suggesting a drain and fill.

Flushes are hyped up so much because there is a lot more profit to be made. I mean I make 2-3 times more to flush a car then to drain and fill. And it isn't much harder.

The additives I have mixed emotions about.

 

[Blazinqwickly]

pics working for every one else ? not me.

 

[FlatRate]

Actually Honda says that it is not proven that a flush is ANY better than a drain and fill. And only recommends drain and fills. Now certain dealerships will do flushes as an extra way of making more income. But according to Honda a drain and fill is just as good. And they also don't want additives put in the transmission, like a lot of the flushing systems come with, such as a Wynn's flush.

I am a Honda Tech, btw.

Precisely

 

[ThirdeYe]

I just checked my fluid today with the car at operating temperature and it was on the full mark, and still a nice red color, so I'm not too worried at this point in time, especially considering the exceptional maintenance history. If I can afford it, I might get it flushed next time, or just keep up with 15k (annual) drain/refills with Amsoil's ATF. Thanks for the help, all of you who contributed Appreciate it.

 

[310Integra]

I do flush and fill 2-3 times then the next time i change the filter along. helps alot. i do this every 5-7 months never had tranny problems. and i drive hard on my tranny. but this is just me.