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I'm getting my enginge block sleeved as we speek and can't get a concrete answer as to how long it will take. They've had the block for 2weeks already. I'm gonna call them AGAIN tomorrow and see what's up, but I was just wondering if anybody could tell me how long it usually takes. Later
 

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ah yes, the industry standard "in 2 weeks" line...

It really depends on their current running workload doesn't it? If they had 30 customers all having the same work done as you sending in their blocks at the same time as you, then, obviously it will take more time.

If they are having a slow month and you are lucky enough to have timed it right and send the block in at that instant, the turnaround time will be shorter.

Ask whether their current volume of work is typical for what they usually get at this time of year. Get a sense of who else is keeping them from spending time on your block. Backorders are also a killer of planned turnaround time estimates.

I suspect with a usual workload, it will be more like 3 weeks and more likely 4 weeks.

I sent my head in to DPR back in 1998 for one of their then popular stage V porting jobs. They said 2 weeks , meaning 2 working weeks (14 days, counting weekdays only). They were done in 3 working weeks. So in terms of machine work and time assembling on a resleeve, I would say you have another 1 week to go.

Also don't confuse or assume "weeks" to mean the common definition of 1 week = 7 days, including sat & sun . Make sure you ask them whether they mean in working days or the common definition of a week.
 

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Wow, I used to just bug the mess out of 'em. I guess that would go to explain why I found a tranny/engine bolt hanging loose?

Rule #4563232 of life: never piss off people that work on your car
 

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thanx fellas...I'll try to be patient I guess....it's just that I have to keep borrowing my dad's p.o.s. truck to get to and from work and it reeeeaaaly sucks. And to top it all off, it's a Ford.
 

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good things comes to those who wait.

I think if it gets past a certain reasonable time, you can ask them why it has been delayed. If gets past that time by a huge amount then I think it's totally justified to demand that they get their act together and their ass moving on your block....to me, if they said 2 weeks, and there's been no backorders, then 1 month is more than being fair...and justifies you demanding an explanation for the delay and a confirmed delivery date...

I always say to them, if you cannot meet a promised delivery time, then why did you bother to offer one in the first place? it just sets up an expectation. is there no meaning to your word? I understand when things get busy and you get swamped but then they should let you know....it's called customer service.

on the other hand, people nagging every day after 2 weeks isn't being fair either. our society needs to adapt a liitle patience...the 2 yr old behaviour of I want it asap for everything is a bit much.
 

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Like Mike said it's just how it is sometimes. These jobs can be extremely tedious and usually their original estimate is as if they were able to work on just your engine the entire time.

When I dropped my car off at HyTech so John could create and test fit his new exhaust system, he said he planned to have it done in less than a week. It took 3 weeks. But I was down at his shop a couple times during that period and I knew he ran into things he didn't expect. He wanted to make sure his finished product was perfect especially since he was creating a jig to duplicate the system for his current and future Integra clients so I was cool with it. When I got my car back, everything was indeed perfect and I'm glad he took the extra time to work out solve any snags he may have encountered rather than shortcutting around them.

I'd say be patient, if you're not in dire need of your car back just sit back and know that it's going to be badass when all is said and done.
 

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I hope your not implying that I'm acting like a 2 yr old, cause your way off, and read the end of my last post. I have no other transport except for my dad's old FORD Ranger that he doesn't take care of. It's dirty, the paint is shot and it has absolutly no power.

Also, in the first place...they will not give me even an estimated time when it will be done.

I'm just tired of not having my car...it's been out of commision for a month now.
 

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no I wasn't. it was a broad general statement not one directed to you. How many times have you seen the 2 yr old behaviour? Someone posts. There's no answer. Maybe because no-one knows the answer. Maybe because the topic was covered already and the board is hinting to the person that maybe they should search (and they will get the answer without anyone having to type a reply). Maybe no-one is on the board at the same time as the person.

Then you get the classic reply by the person that basically states something like: "thanks a lot for not answering my question." . As if it were a command that everyone has to reply...like we owe this person a reply.

The other common 2 yr old-like behaviour you see on chat boards? The post usually goes something like this: "HELP! NEED TO KNOW BY YESTERDAY!!!" or "TELL ME ASAP!!"

hello? are we supposed to run to the person's beckon call and reply instantly because they say so? A simple: "I have this problem. They plan to do this to my car in a day and can you lend a hand ?" is just as effective. No histrionics. No hissy fits. No demanding that you want it now like a 2 yr old toddler. That is rampant in our society. I see it in adults...moreso in the gen x than any others...a lot.


That's what I was referring to.

You did not tell us whether they gave you a deadline or how long they were beyond your expectation. So I was trying to cover as many scenarios as possible.

My point was if it was 1month or less and you pull the 2 yr old move of demanding things , it may backfire on you and you'll get back a lump of coal in your Halloween candy bag, Charlie Brown...that doesn't mean you're Charlie Brown either..so please don't reply that you were offended by me using an expression that wasn't personally directed at you.


I don't know if you have ever actually seen the resleeving process. If they don't bore the cylinder perpendicular around the bore centerline, you can get a cylinder that is off center and crooked. That won't do wonders for your compression or wear on the piston rings and skirt as the piston goes up and down. The bore of the cylinder has to be perfectly round and not a semi-oval. So if you did not know this was a major job and the consequences of a bad boring and resleeving job then I thought I'd let you know. There's a nice pictorial of the resleeving process over at Overboost.com if you search using the term "Golden Eagle" in their FAQ section. (Register first).

So it's major work and you don't want a rush job or else the result will severely impact and ruin the chances of you getting good performance that you want. Would you rather have it back now and have an off center bore or drive the truck for another week but get back a proper prepped block? I'd just call them and ask them to update you on the progress and if there was any hitches or concerns. It's all about communication. No sense in getting upset when all it takes is a cordial phone call and maturely asking for an update.


thanks.
 

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Just got off the phone with the shop (Dynamic Motorsports in CA) and they say it should be done in the beginning of next week. Which means probably the end of next week, but at least I got an answer.

As for you Mike, I think you've gotten a little negative about all the "babies" in these forums. Although, I COMPLETELY agree with you. I usually don't let people get to me on these forums, unless they say something bad about America, and I wasn't offended by anything you said. I just wanted to make sure that you weren't including me in that "2 yr old syndrome" you were talking about.

Anyway....it looks as though I'll be up and running in a couple of weeks....look out 'Stang Cobras and anything else I come up against.
 

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no-one has gotten to anyone...I believe you over-reacted to a general observation...I wasn't trying to put you in a defensive posture. the fact is had you pushed unreasonably, they could have said, okay, you want it now, we'll give it to you now...half-assed job and all...and in the end you would have lost in the long run.

there's always going to be "2 yr old syndrome" behaviour on chat boards...I'm glad they are in the minority.

Heard good things about Dynamic. Did you end up going to a bigger bore? I assume you chose Darton sleeves or was there some other manufacturer available like Benson's or DART?
 
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