[SurferX]

I've read that the endlinks on the Type R front sway bar are different than the regular Integras but I wanted a pic to compare. If anyone could get a pic of their front sway bar specifically at the bushings and endlinks (non Type R) I want to add it to the sway bars article. Thanks alot.

 

[BlueTeg]

Doesn't the difference between the 2 bars lie in the endlink? The GSR uses a "standard" attachment and the itr uses a ball joint pivot. For whatever reason the ball joint produces better handling. Surfer or anyone....do you know why?

If you don't have a pic by tonight. I'll snap one when i get home. Someone else on the board wants a pic of my rear sway bar.....so I might as well snap of the front while I'm under there.

 

[SurferX]

That's what I've read but haven't seen the differences for myself. The LS sway bar up front is slightly smaller, but I would imagine the only difference between the GS-R and Type R bars are at the endlink. That's mainly what I want to see. Also I'm not sure if the bushing connection is any different like it is vastly different for the Type R in the rear. Just some stuff I'd like to see to educate myself and everyone who reads the articles.

 

[dwolsten]

No, there's no difference between the Type-R and GS-R front sway bars. You can check the part numbers and illustrations at www.acuraautomotiveparts.net.

Both cars use ball joint endlinks. The LS is the model which doesn't. It also has a 22mm bar instead of the GS-R's (and Type-R's) 24mm.

Lastly, I'm not sure about the '98-'00 Integra LS's, but in the 2001 LS, the sway bars are the same as the GS-R (including the ball joint endlinks).

 

[BlueTeg]

I posted a response similar to this in the buy/sell forum today and thought I'd go back and add the pics in a thread in the suspension forum for those who are researching this mod to help illustrate differences between the two swaybar endlinks

Below is a picture of the front sway bar endlink from a 22mm swaybar. The 22mm front sway bar is found on the 94-99 LS.

Below is a picture of the front sway bar endlink from a 24mm swaybar. The 24mm front sway bar is found on the 00-01 LS......94-01 GSR......97-01 ITR

Notice the difference in the design of the endlinks. The 94-99 LS front sway bar utilizes 4 rubber bushings versus the 00-01 LS/GSR/ITR front swaybar which uses a heim joint (more rigid) and only 2 rubber bushings. Less rubber bushings = less flex. And we all know that less play in the sway bar setup means the suspension will be more responsive.

 

[codenamezero]

is it easy/possible to install some bar like this by ourselves instead of taking them to the garage?

 

[BlueTeg]

"Easy" is a subjective term.

Unbolting the hardware on the endlinks and bushings is easy. It can be done with a basic tools. The hardest part about swapping out your front swaybar is the fact that you have to unbolt the catalytic converter. And those bolts on the cat are extremely tough to unscrew. I tried for over 40 minutes without so much as budging one of them. I finally just waited till I bought my carsound cat and took it to the local speedshop. They charged me $35 for installing the cat and the swaybar. Not bad, IMO.

 

[codenamezero]

thanks blueteg, always great help from you! =)
i will wait til i get my suspension too then hehehe

 

[Louse76]

You should be able to do it yourself, its not too bad... all you need is a little PB blaster. I don't do crap by myself, but I was able to do that...

 

[dickise]

so there are no extra parts needed to add a type r/gs-r front sway bar? if thats the case im getting one soon.

 

[BlueTeg]

Just make sure that your sway bar comes with all the oem mounting equipment:

2 endlinks (which are expensive to buy if not included with the bar), 4 endlink bushings, 2 D-shaped bushings, all the screws and 2 D-brackets.