I hope this is okay to post here. Detailing tools are hard to come by on eBay and the PC is the king of detailing tools. I know that most of you don't have one primarily because its going to be nearly a 200 dollar investment just to get one. Well, here's your chance. PC 7424 on eBay. Keep your eye on eBay for these. If you can get a 7424 for less than $120 bucks then its a good deal. You'll still need to get the Meguiar's backing plate and pad kit from PAC, but this will get you going out of the box. The white pad it comes with is good for either polishing or waxing, its just a pain because its not the perfect pad for either use. And you have to wash it really good if you are going from polishing to a sealant or a wax. Anyway, keep your eyes open. Good deals come along every now and then.