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Well yesterday my teg got a big makeover in the suspension department. Two of my friends and I put on Eibach pro-kit springs, KYB AGX struts, and a Comptech rear sway-bar/lower tie bar combo...along with a Comptech exhaust. Originally the idea was to also install a Type R front swaybar with poly bushings and a Spoon front upper strut bar as well but the parts for that didn't come intime so that will have to wait till next week.
Everything went great with the install we finished in about 6hrs with a 45min dinner break....we are getting better at this installs
We put the shocks on 2 in the front and 3 in the rear and set the comptech sway bar at medium. I thought that this would be a nice middle setting....hmmmmm.
At around 11:30pm we took a test drive down a dead in road next to my house. My friend Ken said "Rob we don't need any 180's tonight alright!" This is because after we put his suspension on his Supra last month (prokit and AGX shox) he did a nice 180 narrowly missing a car while taking that last corner too fast. Anyway, famous last works. on this road there is a fast sweaper left turn which I have always just powered around.... So I powered around it and noticed around halfway into it that I was going a little too fast and got off of it really fast and then I looked over to see my but coming around...hmmmmmm. 180 followed by another 90 both narrowly missing the sidewalk and median, and I was left thinking damn that sway bar makes a difference. It's just crazy the car has so much over steer now. It actually sorta feels like a rear wheel drive car the rear just floats out in the corners.
Then today I read the new SSC mag and they just put a adj 22mm rear sway bar on thier WRX and they said the same thing "Get off the gas in a turn and you better be ready to catch your butt because it's coming around" SOMETHING THAT COULD HAVE BEEN BROUGHT TO MY ATTENTIoN YESTERDAY.
So I love the way the suspension is working and with the front 24mm bar the car should be better balanced but just thought I would give you all a heads up....just expect to spin once when you get your new comptech sway bar because WOW it makes a BIG difference.
 

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Your suspension setup varies quite a bit from mine but I haven't noticed oversteer characteristics like that. Of course since I can't see the turn or how fast you took it that makes a world of difference too.

My bar is set on the medium setting and the car feels perfectly balanced with a *** of oversteer if I let up on the gas. Even during spirited driving around town I can't say that I've even come close to breaking the tail loose to the point where I don't feel like I have control of the car.

After I get some $$$ for a gsr front sway bar, I'm bumping the rear swaybar setting up to hard. I'm interested to see how the car will handle with that configuration. Hopefully the gsr bar will help keep the car's current handling characteristic with such a stiff setting.
 

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when i got my teg, in one week i went from stock (actually worse than stock, you'll see) suspension to:
- Lowering springs
- Comptech Rear lower tie bar
- Hooking up the stock rear sway bar (for some odd reason, this was disconnected by prev owner)

i for sure shared the "WOW!" fator
 

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"how much did you pay for yor sway bar"

I paid 350 from Modacar.

"My bar is set on the medium setting and the car feels perfectly balanced with a *** of oversteer if I let up on the gas. Even during spirited driving around town I can't say that I've even come close to breaking the tail loose to the point where I don't feel like I have control of the car."

I don't know, I had the same experience that SCC describes in the mag this month. My friend with the supra drove it and couldn't believe how much if felt like a rear wheel drive car. The 24mm front is on the way and should be on the car next week so I will let you know how it changes things. But right now even in mildly spirited driving I can get the tail to come out and that is on 215 Kumho tires which have pretty good grip.....pretty cool. now if i could just learn how to drift.
 

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94gsr4d on Aug/02/02 said:
how much did you pay for yor sway bar
I'm assuming this one is directed at either clark or myself.

I got mine from a local tuner shop here in Phoenix. I've known the owner for awhile and between my integra and my old civic (not even counting all the business I've refer over to him) I've spent literally thousands of dollars. He always gives me really fair prices and 95% of the time will meet or beat the cheapest price I can find.

I got mine for $350 from Apex Motorsports in Tempe.

Modacar is a great place to look. I think the combo retails for $369 there. Don't forget to add in the shipping costs.
 

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$350 was the price from Modacar after the discount. It retailed for 369.

Keep in mind that we don't get the 5% discount anymore though.
 

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"Keep in mind that we don't get the 5% discount anymore though"

You know everyone keeps saying that but I got all my stuff from them after we "didn't have the discount anymore" and yes it was 350 shipped. they gave me the discount no like 1500 dollars worth of stuff and assured me that when I order my Greddy Turbo kit in a couple of months they would give me the discount on that as well. So I don't know what the real deal is but I would at least talk too them about it...just don't piss them off because I still want my discount
 

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honestly, I couldn't justify spending that much for the comptech rear bar...especially after seeing what it does on Si's...tears the whole sub-frame apart...it's the fact that it uses the stock mounting points that I don't like...so I went with a suspension techniques kit. Front and rear (1 inch, 3/4 inch f/r) $280...$300 shipped.What I really liked about the rear bar was how the ends mount on the rear shock bolt which equals less stress on the rear subframe.

as far as oversteering...my car is essentially neutral. BUT...if I do any sudden inputs (read: not smooth) I can step the tail out. I have been thoroughly impressed with how my autoX performance has improved after getting used to the complete lack of body roll.

I'm not jocking comptech...I just think they're a bit overpriced, especially when their kits have proven to cause serious damage to the rear subframe.
 

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Carlos:

uhhhhh.....I'm not really sure where I should start w/ your post.

1. What exactly does it do to SI's? It tears the whole sub-frame out?????? *rolls eyes* Did these SI owners have the swaybar only or the sway/tie bar combo? If they have the swaybar and tiebar combo then I'm waving the BS flag on that one!

2. What is wrong with the stock mounting points? They work perfectly fine if you reinforce them properly.

3. You're certainly entitled to your opinion about their merchandise being overpriced. BUT, Comptech is certainly not notorious for causing "serious damage" to the subframe. Have you seen their kit? Have you seen the giant rear subframe brace that provides a solid mounting point for their 3-way adjustable (thats right children their swaybar has three stiffness settings) 22mm swaybar?



You are misleading people with your information about the comptech kit ripping out of the subframe. This is bad.
Comptech has one of the highest quality kits for the integra. And for you to say that it is susceptable to ripping out of the subframe if properly installed with their rear tiebar is just ludicris! Please get your facts straight before posting information that smears the reputation of one of the best if not the best bang for the buck mod you can do for the handling of your integra.
 

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The Comptech rear swaybar by itself will definitely tear the subframe apart. That's why it's important to get the Comptech tiebar with it. It's designed with a flat mounting surface which is what prevents subframe tearout...compared to the stock sloped surface. Keep in mind that ANY rear swaybar out there that doesn't have some sort of subframe reinforcement kit is susceptible to damaging the subframe. Those Si owners...I'm pretty posive they mounted the swaybar without any type of reinforcement, thus the tearout.

on another note, I definitely wouldn't call the Comptech swaybar/tie-bar combo a "bang for the buck" mod. $350 is still really expensive for just a swaybar and tiebar. For less than $120, you can get an ITR swaybar with a BSQ mounting kit. Add a nice $120 rear tie-bar (if you must) and you still have money to spend on other suspension goodies like polyurethane bushings. I think of the Comptech combo as a "quality" mod where you will definitely pay for what you're getting.
 

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Comptech is an awesome company, you get what you pay for in our game....I am personally leaning torwards the progress swaybar and tie bar combo, can't wait, later.
 
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