can a n/a make 250 horses?
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I agree with 99_tegls. Be prepared to spend lots and lots and lots and lots of dough. But anything is possible.
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Well said.
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Hey, I'm not discouraging you, you can still rev up to 9K with a turbo, but turbocharging a car is cheaper than N/A. Who wouldn't want to go N/A? That makes me drool too, but it costs a lot of money.
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Wow, what an educated and informed decision to go turbo....
If you decide to choose b/c of the hype and some dude over the internet told you to....then you made a bad decision. If you understand the pro's and application of a turbo then you made a good decision.
If you decide to choose b/c of the hype and some dude over the internet told you to....then you made a bad decision. If you understand the pro's and application of a turbo then you made a good decision.
You'd have to bore out and increase displacement to at least 2.0L-2.1L to reach 250whp on a streetable N/A B18C1.
With big N/A setups you don't see many dyno postings because the numbers are never really big. What you do see is impressive track times which is all that really matters. Peak horsepower numbers equal, N/A will usually display the superior engine transient response time to F/I setups. That's why N/A numbers are never nearly as big as F/I setups yet they pull close numbers at the track.
Of course, tell the F/I guys that and they'll just complain about traction all day long
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Not that I'm putting F/I down. I just wish some people would see the larger picture. Sometimes there's more to a car's performance than a peak horsepower number...
With big N/A setups you don't see many dyno postings because the numbers are never really big. What you do see is impressive track times which is all that really matters. Peak horsepower numbers equal, N/A will usually display the superior engine transient response time to F/I setups. That's why N/A numbers are never nearly as big as F/I setups yet they pull close numbers at the track.
Of course, tell the F/I guys that and they'll just complain about traction all day long
Not that I'm putting F/I down. I just wish some people would see the larger picture. Sometimes there's more to a car's performance than a peak horsepower number...
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I too am very interested in N/A. If you N/A the car first, then throw on a turbo is that possable? Or is it one or the other? Cause if you N/A the car first than throw on a turbo, esentially you'd have a hell of a fast ass car. Am I right? If not please inform me on weather you could n/a than f/i. you know, have the best of both worlds.
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u cant f/i and n/a at the same time.Guys with n/a motors ussually raise the compression ratio on their motors for power and high rpm.and turbo moors arent safe with a high compression motor. i had 11.4 compression on my motor and my head bolts couldnt hold on,so my block was striped. i agree with surferx on track times
Sure you can run high compression and boost at the same time. But 11.4:1 compression is pretty high to add boost to it. High compression with low boost is better than low compression with high boost. You'll just wear the motor out faster. The higher the compression, the more serious the level of tuning. As long as it's tune properly, I don't see why not.
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Not an informed comment...ati2ude on Jul/31/02 said:
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with 3.5 grand u can make 210 whp.
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Hmmmmm!! That means for every 1 dollar I put into my car I get 16.67 horsepower! Sorry...had to postwhore.
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You can get 250 hp's to the ground with a n/a B18C1. Your looking at a complete rebuild from the intake to the muffler. Getting that same figure with a street-legal car is an even harder task. If I was going to make my B18C1 an all motor monster, I'd use a B20 block with the GSR head (course then it wouldn't be a B18C anymore). Turbos are less expensive, but overall they are more unreliable and more headaches in the long run than n/a. Talk to the guys at www.exospeed.com; they specialize in all motor hondas.
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I think you got your math backwards on that one. For every $16.67 dollars he would be getting 1HP. If it was the other way around, he would have 58345HP after spending $3,500.IntegraBad18c on Aug/01/02 said:
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