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Hey all, Okay so I am picking up an Escort 8500 tomorrow and I was wondering what is the best place to mount a radar detector? Is high up on the windshield a bad idea? how about too low? Confused....ideas?
 

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in most manuals they say fairly low on the windhield... but some say above the wiper blades/arms. I dunno. I'd say just a couple of inches up from the base of the windshield, centered, should be fine.


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I've heard both as far as which is better.

But if its lower its more visable and I didnt want that with mine so I mounted it above the mirror, still visable but not as much.
 

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well you know where the slope down to the clock is? directly above thatyou should put the suction cups. when it is down low and center, the radar covers a more vast area. if it is too high it can't cover radar signals below it only at a level height, so what i'm saying is, as low on the winshield and the center as possible.
 

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The manual for my Cobra ESD-9100 said to put it low on the windshield, but above the wiper blades. I stuck it above the clock. The manual for my Valentine one said to put it in the center and as high as I can without anything blocking it's front or rear view. Basically, it needs to be able to see well out of the front and back windows, and the higher it is, the more it can see. I believe this has more of an effect on laser detection than radar. I put the V1 above the clock, but a little bit higher than where I used to have the Cobra.

The Cobra's laser warning never went off for the year that I used it, and I live in a city enforced with laser (and there's a lot of traps). I also know I've been in at least 2 laser traps (but likely a lot more), and it didn't make any noise. I don't know if it's because the detector sucks or because of where I put it. The V1 is only a couple of inches higher and has already alerted me when another car was hit with laser and then again when it was on me, but it's also a much better detector and it's laser detection is second to none.
 

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Weston on Sep/12/02 said:
The manual for my Cobra ESD-9100 said to put it low on the windshield, but above the wiper blades. I stuck it above the clock. The manual for my Valentine one said to put it in the center and as high as I can without anything blocking it's front or rear view.
see thats why I dont think it really matters.
 

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I think higher is better for laser, since the detector can see more and it needs line of sight to detect it (laser doesn't bounce all over like radar does). But maybe lower is better for radar... maybe it catches signals bounced off of the hood and it achieves a little better range as a result.
 

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I would go with whatever the individual detector says. one company may have engineered they're detector to pick up "X" number of degrees below the level, another may not have any detection below the unit.
 

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I was talking to a cop, and asked him about radar detectors, he just kinda chuckled and said theyre just a false sense of security.. Cop cars have hold buttons in them, that they can hold until theyre ready to clock you, and once they let off, theyve got you. Radar has a 1300' range, and laser is 2200' .. He also told me alot of stuff, that has helped me speed, i.e. telling me exactly how a cop has to sit and such, since then, ive noticed theyre all sitting just like he said.. So, jsut a friendly conversation with a sheriff deputy, told me more than I ever couldve gotten from a detector
 

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sneeedle on Sep/13/02 said:
Cop cars have hold buttons in them, that they can hold until theyre ready to clock you, and once they let off, theyve got you. Radar has a 1300' range, and laser is 2200'
As far as I know only laser has instant-on feature which you talk of ("hold buttons?"). You will not be able to trace their signal until they pull the trigger on their laser gun and clock you....which is of course...too late! However, radar does not work the same way, and from what I've read, radar is used far more than laser (depending on your area I guess) and doesn't have instant-on capability, and can be easily picked up by your mid to hi end detector.
 

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sneeedle on Sep/13/02 said:
I was talking to a cop, and asked him about radar detectors, he just kinda chuckled and said theyre just a false sense of security.. Cop cars have hold buttons in them, that they can hold until theyre ready to clock you, and once they let off, theyve got you. Radar has a 1300' range, and laser is 2200' .. He also told me alot of stuff, that has helped me speed, i.e. telling me exactly how a cop has to sit and such, since then, ive noticed theyre all sitting just like he said.. So, jsut a friendly conversation with a sheriff deputy, told me more than I ever couldve gotten from a detector
the laser scare is just that--a scare... the money involved and the downfalls of the techonogy make it not as good an alternative to high-quality radar systems. lasers requires direct line of sight--no signs, trees, etc
it requires the cop to not be moving
and that 2200' is just the physical limitation of the device--not what it's readily used for. even mounted on a tripod, the stability for the detector isn't good enough, much less, have you ever seen how small a car is from 2200'? it's a speck--a speck you cannot aim at.
 

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radar isn't exact, so the hold and gunning isn't used like a laser, it spreads and the cop decides who was speeding using best judgement. Oh and it is usually the red car :(
 

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My roomate keeps her detector on her 3000GT above the mirror. So far, it has worked well there
 

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Cops here also have Vascar, which is just a time over distance computer. It has a clock in it and it can use the patrol car to measure distance or the officer can manually enter it. The only way to detect that is to see the cop. This is also how they track your speed from aircraft, but they usually use timing marks painted on the road (which you can see if you're looking for them).

Laser requires line of sight, the officer cannot be moving, and you must be either going towards or away from the officer (no clocking you from a 90 degree angle). Laser is just a range finder with a clock. As for detecting it, you do have very little or no warning, but a good detector can save you. My V1 has saved me... it alerted me when the car in front of me was hit with laser, so I hit the brakes, and a second or two later, the cop pointed it at me, but I was under the limit. Laser is hard to detect (very narrow beam, and you have to have line of sight), but a good detector like a V1 can save you if you aren't going too far over the limit.

As for radar, I love it... A lot of cops here like to drive around with their radar guns on. There is such a thing and Instant-on radar, but a good detector will let you know when another car is hit, so you have warning unless there are no other cars between you and the cop. It was kind of hard to tell Instant-on from false alarms with my old Cobra detector, but the V1 makes them pretty distinguishable. Radar just goes all over the place; it will bounce off of pretty much everything, so it is very easy to detect. I've picked up speed traps from miles away, over a hill, around a bend, etc. There's a lot of false alarms with radar and you need to learn how to tell the difference between them and a real threat, which isn't possible on the cheap detectors, but the V1 makes things much easier. If the Ka band goes off, it's a legitimate threat more often than not, as almost all false alarms are on X or K bands. Radar is the most common technology used. It's quick and easy, and it works well in most conditions. Radar works by bouncing a signal off the car and measuring the doppler shift when in comes back to the gun. That means you have to be going towards or away from the radar gun, they can't clock you from the side (ie a 90 degree angle).

My detector has saved me from more radar traps than I can remember. There aren't a lot of cops running speed traps around here, but every so often my detector saves me from one. Out in the boonies, they'll sit on the side of the road at night in the dark or just over a hill, and there's no way to see them until it's too late.

But no radar detector is a license to speed. I'd say the trick is to not speed any more than you normally would, and slow down when the detector gives you reason to believe there's a cop around. If you speed more, you'll get more tickets, regardless of how good your detector is.
 

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It put mine right there. Works well and it doesnt really get in the way of anything. I recommend hiding the wire, it looks much cleaner than havinga wire coming from your cig lighter.
 

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well this is a bit off topic, but I think I remember reading an artical in an old 2600 on how to bounce back a false speed using a laptop and some common equipment...I wouldn't recomend it but try looking it up if your interested...I'll try and find which issue it was and get back to you
 

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I was pulled over for speeding about a month ago (no ticket though). I was doing 90 on a 55. First cop clocked me from about a 45 degree angle. Second cop pulled me over about half a mile later. After reading Weston's post, did they actually clock me from that angle? or did they pull me over just because I'm a young male driving a sports car late at night? Damn cops.
 

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Well when it comes to mounting, dont forget that integra's have some pretty steep back windows, so rear detection is pretty shoddy at best, you really need to have the detector in a place where it can "see" as much of the road, forwards and back as possible....

as for laser being good or not, car and driver (or one of them) has done several tests with laser guns as to their accuracy.....they suck :) in order for the result to be correct, they have to hit a perfectly flat part of the car *ahem* front license if the surface is not flat it can distort the reading as much as 5mph...thats the difference between tickets around here....there were some court cases in nc I think regarding this, they were trying to get laser guns outlawed due to their flaws....


BUT!!!! fact is, if a cop wants to bust your balls (proverbial balls ladies) then they are going to anyways...it sucks enough getting pulled over weather for a ticket, or cause your tails arnt dot approved that they cops pretty much have us by those *proverbial* balls anyways!


As to the original question about the best place to mount.....I say the trunk!!!
 
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