OK, for all of you automatic transmision integra owners (like me), you don't need to down shift to first when you're at a stop. The transmision automatically puts the car into first gear. So why would you manually put the car in first gear, when it's already in first at a stop? I have an automatic just like you guys...the only difference is that I don't try to trick myself into thinking that I have a manual like some of you do when you shift your auto. So stop already with this "shifting in an automatic" junk.