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post #6399 of 6480 (permalink) Old 06-22-2016, 01:21 PM Thread Starter
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To my issue:

So there were puddles out on track during the third session on Sunday... I was out there taking it pretty easy, but after 3 laps i came out of the final turn and the car ran out of power.

I pulled over off track and got towed in, initial thought : "oh no, hydrolock".. I still haven't ruled this out. Car turns over but doesn't start.

So it wasn't until today that I started poking around:
- I pulled the spark plugs out, they looked fine
- Used my camera scope to look in cylinder areas, didn't see anything of note
- Unplugged the distributor and the injections, then went to pull the 15 amp fuse for EFI by the battery and strangely enough, it was backed almost all the way out from the socket (saw this and I hoped this was it !!)

I didn't put everything back together, i ran a compression test... consistent across the board (just under 180 psi)

Kind of hoping the fuse was the culprit, I put the plugs back in, hooked up distributor and injectors and made sure that 15 amp fuse was fully seated.

Got back in the car, turned the key, the car came to life... then died a few seconds later... and now I'm back to "turns over but doesn't start"

- *Maybe* my distributor is toast
- Maybe i did hydrolock, but i see or hear no evidence of this
- Something else?

Next step will be to diagnose the distributor i suppose, although that wouldn't explain why the car ran for a few seconds a bit ago


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This really wouldnt explain the half out fuse and the fact that it fired up momentarily after the fuse was fully seated,but just to cross it off the list...is the fuel pump runinng?

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Fuel pump does prime up when the ignition is turned on
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Ignition coil maybe? Sounds pretty similar to when my Teg crapped out on me.
Although I just threw money at it until it ran again, but the coil was the culprit.

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Mine did something like that at work one day (In my log starting here) and in the end it was the ignition coil. You've confirmed compression. Crank it for a few seconds and smell the exhaust. If it's straight gas, that confirms fuel. Spark is all that's left.
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I suspect a main relay. I recently repaired the main relay in my nephew's '99 TL which would intermittently die. It turns out a solder joint where the relay component connects to the circuit board had failed. This was obvious just by looking at it! Resoldering the joints solved the problem.

The mounting bolt is hard to get to on the TL. I found it easier to pry the sides of the plastic housing apart and slide the guts out of the housing. I don't know how difficult it is on the Integra.

EDIT: If the fuel pump primes every time, but it still won't start, the main relay is probably okay.

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So the worst case scenario is what it is.... Friday night we first were swapping out distributor parts (and a new main relay) hoping the issue was ignition related, but sadly it wasn't.

Ran a compression test on # 1 and barely got to 130 psi, from there just started pulling stuff apart and out. The block is still in the car, I hope to have that out by Weds and have the engine somewhere that they can tell me how bad it is and how much it'll cost to fix, but all signs point to hydrolocked.

An old school TI-er offered to sent me some parts that I hope to get by the end of this week in case they are needed. I'm going to do everything i can to get the car wrapped up by the Dragon, a matter complicated by visiting family coming for most of July, but if I don't get it together by then, I'll still be coming up in the F150



Went over my Dad's and got his engine hoist




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Jeff and K2 working at it




Head = off! Awaiting my valve tools so I can pull apart the head before giving to shop

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oh man, that is disappointing!
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Curious what the final culprit happens to be. Hoping it's nothing overly catastrophic for you man. You just had it dialed in and running like a champ.


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Usual huge shout out to @Jeffaome , I don't know what the heck I'd do without your help over the years.

Out comes zee block !




Yesterday during my lunch break, I finished a little garage project to help out: running an air line to a new reel I picked up




Said air line in use! (such a big help!)




Out she comes again




Depressing




Stripping down the block




Yuck... the neon shit is coolant with some of that UV dye in there (recall that last time motor went in i needed help tracking down coolant leak)




Oil pickup screen had some stuff in there, like what appears to be a bit of RTV all coiled up like a spring..

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Cylinder/wall visual inspection















Stripped the head down. Here was a neat little trick @K2sInteg98 showed us: use rubber bands to keep these together




Then slide out the rocker arms and they are kept all in order




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Hoping to get the block and head to a nearby machine shop today (CW Pence in Maitland FL)... their hours suck (9-4 M-F and that's it!), but i'll make do



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Stripped the head down. Here was a neat little trick @K2sInteg98 showed us: use rubber bands to keep these together




Then slide out the rocker arms and they are kept all in order




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that's exactly what i did when i replaced the LMAs in my car. its a great trick to know, i can only imagine the disaster that could happen by not using that trick lol
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Washed all the work gloves I had last night, I'll let them air dry... wtf was i thinking getting *yellow* mechanics gloves lol (2nd from left top row)

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Block and head = dropped off... now the waiting game starts... he said "could be a few weeks", so i'll start gathering parts this week (head gasket, etc) and hope for the best. He definitely said rings and bearings will get replaced with new ones... if some valves are bent, he said he has some laying around that he'd give me to take care of those.... so i'm optimistic..

If the car won't be done until the Dragon Run, I'll come up in just the truck... but i'm hoping the car will be in tow behind it when i do come up


I may take this opportunity of a long weekend to paint the garage floor, something i've been meaning to do since i've been here at the house
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