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post #1 of 8 (permalink) Old 11-11-2016, 04:54 AM Thread Starter
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Talking Finally Fixed G3 Broken Hatch Lock ($20 fix)

Folks, I kid you not, the whole broken hatch lock/trunk actuator issues have plagued me ever since I got the car back in February. Literally every piece of the mechanism was broken and I've spent months mulling over how to fix it. And yes I know this car is already 17 years old but I finally figured it out a solution I like tonight and I wanted to share how I fixed it. By no means am I any kind of engineer, but everything works exactly as it should now. So for those of you that don't want to shell out $70+ for the OEM setup let me show you have far technology has come since 1999.

So first and foremost, there are 3 main components to the hatch mechanism.


#25, #14, and #26 (Bottom left hand corner)

Here are the pieces in question (not my image)


Here's a brief explanation of all the parts:
#25 electronically controls a gear that moves an arm that pops the hatch open. usually this breaks when the little internal tension clip snaps and can no longer exert enough force to clamp down on the big cog. It's a pretty flipping complicated little gadget that I guess was necessary in the 90's but now been easily surpassed by the modern actuator. For me, this was broken along with the rest of the mechanism and I actually followed the solution on this thread where member WillyWilly already found a solution 6 years ago which was to replace the entire assembly with a universal actuator. I picked mine up from Amazon. super good solution, cheap, simple solution and works well.

After I fixed that and could now actually use the switch under the hatch to activate the trunk popper, I realized that I now couldn't ever LOCK this thing. The reason why that didn't come up in the past was because the popper was broken. But now that it was fixed I had to move onto fixing the next thing.

#14 is the cornerstone of the locking mechanism. It's a super complex piece of plastic that basically takes an incoming +12v or -12v signal and moves a plunger up or down. This plunger manually flips a little spring microswitch within the mechanism that is equivalent to a momentary "On/Off" switch. See Diagram Below:


I don't have an exploded view, but if you ever open it up it's pretty complex inside; but essentially works as a "memory switch" to remember the state of the key turn so that the hatch can stay "locked" or "unlocked". It uses 2 separate electronic circuits but joins them together in one housing with a mechanical movement of the plunger connecting the two processes.

As a halfway solution, I deleted the locking mechanism entirely and wired the two leads from the microswitch to a rocker switch. Doing this allowed me to at the very least, lock and unlock the hatch switch; but it was VERY inconvenient because I had to use the key to open the hatch and set the state of the switch and always still rely on the manual unlock by turning the key all the way to the right.


For the longest time after that, I was dumbfounded that the engineers at Acura would use such a mechanism to accomplish such a simple little task. One that something like a relay could take care of. But not a momentary relay. The state of the lock switch needed to stay on or off without the need for electricity and after searching high and low, I found this...


The bistable or latching relay!! At first, I wasn't sure if this was going to work, but looking at the diagram on the side of the relay showed me that if I had a -12v signal for "unlock" and +12v signal for "lock", 1 common ground, and an addition circuit that could be completed with this, it could all be wired to work exactly as it should have.

The final result is a $12 latching relay doing the job of a $70 lock mechanism. Highly recommended if your latch, lock or actuator doesn't work.


I'll try to find some pictures of the mechanism and update you all, but hopefully this is helpful (and hopefully not already covered!!)
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post #2 of 8 (permalink) Old 11-11-2016, 01:59 PM
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this actually looks like a really great find and fix, think ive seen someone use a toyota latch or something along the lines and did the same thing, but if this is only a $20 fix, might be better solution

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Thanks MikiMaru! I figured someone searching could get some help since I was struggling with this forever. It definitely is less susceptible to failure which is a good thing. the most challenging part was finding the bistable relay.
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nice job, I ended up buying an oem one, but would have considered this. My previous locking mechanism had issues with working, and it wasn't the plastic gear that cracked....
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Would this be the same relay that you are referring to?

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Would this be the same relay that you are referring to?
That looks correct! Just want to try to understand the diagram on the side of the relay to make it work correctly.

Looks like 3+5, create a closed loop for 1 and 2, 3 and 4 open the loop for (lock)
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Just register to say thank you to OP cause this fixed my problem perfectly. Had a hard time finding a relay but I ended up with this one for a Ford “Ford Motor Co Fu5t-14b192-aa 5 Blade Relay”. Got it for under $10 shipped on ebay
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Just want to say thanks OP. Solved my problem https://ibb.co/28H0PXJ
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