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dpaton's 97 DB7 rattletrap.... Returned, washing my hands of it (pg2)

I finally replaced my old (totalled) DB7 with one that's new to me. It's a project though. Solidly in the 'oh shit what did I just buy' stage. I just brought it home, and this is as much for me right now as anyone else.

Car is a 97 GS 4dr in Citrus Silver Metallic with a clean title and all original body panels.
Drivers front quarter was repainted at some point. They forgot to mask off the VIN sticker. It's still there tho.
Interior is dirty. Very dirty.
Seats are RSX fronts and what appears to be a different RSX rear. Factor leather fronts are tired.
Rearview mirror is broken off.
Visors are in the trunk. (P.O. had a wink mirror).
Misc trim is missing.
Both front fenders need some bodywork
The clearcoat is toast on the hood, roof, and trunk.
The front windows don't work at all. Not even a relay click.
Car sits on badly white painted meshies.
Suspension is pretty heavily dropped with 'KYB coilovers'.
Front fender liners were removed to facilitate the drop.
Driver's tie rod is super loose (highway wobble is very noticeable).
High beams are yellow and illegal.
Fogs aren't right and aren't wired right.
Cruise control is inop for some reason.
Taillights leak something fierce. Trunk plate is trashed, and things are...ugly.
Cluster was replaced with the engine (old one smoked badly), and it was rolled back. (ODO disclosure completed)
Tint job is...well...I've seen worse.
Power steering is there but inoperative.
Washer fluid bottle lacks a cap.
Radiator overflow tank and hose are missing
ABS pops on and off. Need to pull the code. Expect it's the typical sedan issue.
SRS is inop. Car had a quick release, and the cable reel harness was cut. Ugh. Might need the under dash portion as well. Double ugh.

It's automatic. Double ugh.

The project list is in this order:
Swap in my Del Sol seat and the stock passenger seat.
Reinstall visors.
Fix windows.
Fix SRS.
Fix washer cap/overflow tank
Fix rearview.
Fix PS.
Raise suspension
Fix driver's tie rod.
Fix headlights/fogs/install HIDs
Fix bodywork
Replace cluster.

Auto-to-manual swap.

Parts I currently need:
Stock rear seat for a 97 GS 4dr
Child seat retainer lug (x2)
Radiator overflow tank
Washer tank cap
Front fender liners
Front bumper (CSM)
Both front fenders (CSM)
Sedan wing (CSM).

And more I can't think of.

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95 EJ1 Milano RIP/died/sold -> 98 DB7 CSM RIP/totalled -> 97 DB7 CSM Awful. Sold it back. -> 01 DB8 YR525M RIP/totalled -> 06 Civic LX <log offsite>

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Can anyone ID these coilovers? Previous owner called them KYB, but I can't seem to make a visual match. Also very curious about the springs and their rate (they remind me of stock, but look a lot shorter). This thing made my kidneys hurt on the 23 mile drive home. No bump stops are present.



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wow just wow

those are stock springs cut on some coilover sleeves that look to be welded to the strut which is most likely stock

yeah, you need to get rid of that suspension asap

kyb just makes strut/shocks

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Thought so. The ride is fine on flat road, and feels like it was tuned for a road course. On the streets of Chicagoland though, it's murder. Expansion joints are bearable, but the ones where they've filled cracks with asphalt lumps are murder. My back is still complaining.

Brief update, since I didn't do it last night before bed:

Rearview mirror is back in place. Dumbass P.O. didn't know it was a breakaway design and filled it up with glue. Ugh.

RSX seats are out. Those will be up here soon for sale. They were held in with 2 bolts each. smh. Used all of the bolts to get my drivers Del Sol seat mostly mounted. The larger bolt that threads flat into the floor appears cross threaded, badly, and I think the weld-nut in the body may be damaged. Time to get out the tap set.

The carpet is...unbelievably filthy. I need to take a picture and post it. I'm seriously debating between cleaning it and replacing it. It's incredibly bad.

The rear seat was probably pulled from a badly wrecked car. The bottom is fine, but the seat back is taco'd a little. That' bothersome to me on a lot of levels, since my kids will be back there. I'm pretty sure it's an RSX seat, but I'm trolling for pictures of factory grey leather RS rears to check. It just doesn't mesh with my memory of DB7 rears.
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Oh, the rattletrap bit is because the front windows are rattling badly. The car was briefly at a salvage yard, and I think they yanked some important bits from it. We'll see once I get the door panels off.
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that suspension you have isnt road tuned. idk what to call it because it isnt right
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Oh, I know, it's a hot mess. I only said that because it was super stiff, but not bouncy. Reminded me of hard core race suspensions. For now it'll do because it's keeping the car running, but it's so low I can't get a low profile jack under it. Ugh.

I have the 4 STR.t shocks I won as part of the Koni contest a few years ago, but no spring to go with them yet. I'm hunting. Missed a set of stock ITR springs not too long ago for the cost of shipping. Trying to find a similar deal.
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quite a project you picked up. i was hoping youd be back with something after how the last one ended

not a bad start. and i can relate on the carpet front. after YEARS with no carpet i finally cleaned up my floors and dropped in what is essentially a brand new OEM carpet in it. could not be happier with the change.

GL man, definitely sounds like youve got a project on your hands

i can get you a set of skunk2 springs for fairly cheap if you are interested just PM me.

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Thanks Mutt. Yeah, I got in a little over my head. Timing was the motivator mainly. Oldest kid is 3, and there's another arriving at the end of June, and we can't be a one car family for long at all.

The carpet...still on the fence. I'm going to try to hit up home depot for a carpet cleaning machine with a hand wand I think, but I have a hunch full replacement is in the cards.

PM'd you about the springs. Trying to talk a guy locally down from $75 for stock GSR springs, but I don't think that's going to happen.

The back seat is the thing I'm most worried about at the moment. It's flat out not secure. Surfing for 4dr back seats without cig burns or bad water damage is making my eyes hurt.

First pic is the rear seat. Kinda looks like a GS leather rear, doesn't it? Doesn't fit like one.
Second pic is the fist-wide gap between the passenger side of the seat back and the package tray. The latch in the center is exposed. Pretty sure, based on the drawing in the Helms, that the proper rear seat should cover that area completely and lay flush with the tray. It did in my last DB7.
Third pic is the dash harness ends for the steering wheel. Cut wires
Fourth pic is the slip ring assembly for the steering wheel. Cut wires
Final pic is the funk I'm dealing with. That's a shot of the pocket under the e-brake handle, and I used my crappy phone flash to make sure it looked as bad as it does in person.
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Can you see what's missing?

I do.

And this window won't be able to roll all the way up in the next 36 hours, I'm sure of that.

/facepalm

Window motor
Drive cable
Lots of hardware
Plastic liner

How do I get the window down to remove it, or jack it up to seal it in the interim while waiting for parts?
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First, glad to see you're back in an Integra.
second, wow... what was the prior owner doing?
third, wtf is all that mess you got into? Hope you got this for CHEAP.

But I'm confident, if there's anyone that can bring this back to daily beauty, is you.
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I paid a touch over 2k....not cheap enough. Debating heading to his house with a friend and asking for a refund. This is borderline dangerous. I'm pissed.

Prior owner was a 20 year old kid who didn't know isht about isht.

The mess.....I don't want to think too hard about it. I'm just working through things on the punchlist.

The windows...could decide whether to cry into my beer or punch someone. Seriously,
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:/ sucks to hear its such a rough start man. mine wasnt exactly pleasant either, but it definitely wasnt as rough as yours seems to be
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Working with him to maybe take the car back. Either that or some money comes my way and I sell it as a clean shell with some good parts for a grand or so. Then I can get something in better shape. Maybe. Fingers crossed.
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