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Old 09-05-2004, 07:26 PM   #57 (permalink)
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damn, props to u man
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Old 09-05-2004, 07:49 PM   #58 (permalink)
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More answers to your great questions!

Shifter: The stock Prelude shifter will be turned 180 degrees so the cables point backwards. I've designed a plate with bellcranks which will mount on top of the trans to convert the motion from the cables to the shifter and selector arms on the trans. Different bellcrank arm lengths will shorten shifter lever throw.

Electrical: I have the complete interior, including dash and HVAC and complete wiring harness from the Prelude which will be installed in the GSR. The Prelude ECU is mounted in the passenger foot well but will be relocated to behind the passenger seat, so I'll need to lengthen the portion of the harness between the ECU and main chassis harness. The engine harness between the ECU and engine will be stock. Otherwise I'll use the Prelude harness everywhere and interface it to connectors on the Integra where necessary. A lot of the connectors are plug compatable, as you would imagine. one thing the GSR has that the Prelude dosn't is the rear wiper/washer. I'm going to try to use the stalk switch from the GSR mounted somewhere on the Prelude console.

Inspiration: I've wanted to do this project for a long time, since 1991. I've been inspired lately by TV shows like American Chopper, American Hotrod, Overhaulin', CCR, etc...

Sponsors: I would love to involve sponsors in this project. I think it fits nicely into the wave of automotive/fabrication related TV shows on today. I have been hesitant to approach sponsors until I actually have something to show them, rather than just an idea.

Street Legal: absolutely

Vacuum Connections: I'll be using the GSR fuel return line to feed vacuum from the intake manifold up front to the brake booster. All other vacuum connections will be stock.

Gas Tank: I bought an MR2 fuel tank off eBay from a guy in Texas and will be mounting it sideways (it runs longinitudinally under the tunnel in the MR2) behind the seats. There will be a steel fire wall between the passenger compartment and the tank which will continue rearward (with a removable panel) to cover the entire engine compartment.

Roll Cage: The car is intended to be a "driver", not a racecar, so no cage. I am considering a roll bar, space permitting, but it's not necessary based on the intended use.

Space in Front: There will be lots of space between the radiator and firewall and I intend to use it for trunk storage. I would really like to duct the air from the radiator up through louvers in the hood and build a seperate box behind that for storage space. Haven't thought about it a lot other than the difficulty of sealing it to the under side of the hood without modifications to the hood support structure. It would need to be water tight.

Front Structure in Back: Yes, the main reason for using something already built is that it's already designed and built exactly for the purpose of bolting everything up. All of the motor mounts and suspension mounting points are already there.

Thanks again for all of your kind comments and questions. Hopefully a lot more of them will be answered as I go along.

Dave
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Old 09-05-2004, 08:15 PM   #59 (permalink)
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A few concerns I have that you've probably already addressed:

A: if you're using prelude brakes out back, how are you going to balance the braking?
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Great question! As of now I have only a "seat of the pants" idea for brake balance. Until I know the final weight distribution and CG height, I can only estimate roughly what balance will work. As it is, I'll be installing a 4040 disk brake distribution/proportioning valve from a 91 Integra LS. (bought it on eBay Friday) If that doesn't work, I have a couple of options, depending on how far off it is. I may be able to dial it in with different pads front and rear. Last resort is an adjustable proportioning valve. I know I'll have quite a bit more rear braking potential with the rear weight distribution. I'm hoping it will be proportional to the difference in piston diameter and rotor size between rear brakes on an Integra and front brakes on a 97 Prelude with the 4040 proportioning valve. Keep in mind, I have identical calipers and rotors front and rear.

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Old 09-05-2004, 08:22 PM   #60 (permalink)
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Quote: Ryziez on Sep/05/04you say you were a part of the Harrier Mazda project? what years was that project racing in? please let me know because my racecar builder had a one-off BMW GTP racecar too and there is a good chance you have raced with him. i can post some pics of it if the admins will allow.

Check out this link:Harrier Mazda RX83-C
It has many details of the car and the racing we did, which occured in the late 90's into 2000 at Road Atlanta, Roebling Road, Watkins Glen, and Daytona. I'm sorry I don't recognize the car in your picture.

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ahh, yes that would explain why that car is unfamiliar to you. that car raced in the late 60's... long time ago. it was driven by Alf Gebhardt (my car builder and mechanic), David Hobbs (yes, the david hobbs from speedvision, also known as the man who invented the word 'clag') and another of Hobbs' relatives, i forget the first name but it was another Hobbs. That picture i have posted of it on pg. 4 is from Road Atlanta. The car was originally built in a small race shop outside of Stuttgart, Germany and it was raced in Le' Mans and won it's class a few times, then it was shipped to America where it successfully competed in the ALMS series. But anyhow, this is your post, so i will leave the glory and bragging to you!
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Old 09-05-2004, 10:31 PM   #61 (permalink)
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first off WHY??

dont get me wrong, the work you are putting into this is absolutly amazing, i wish i could do 1% of what you have done with the project.

as for the fuel tank. you could always put a 12-16 gal. fuel cell(yes cell) up front to help with the weight distribution....i would be interested to see how you got the 45/55 numbers as well... i figured it would be more like 35/65..... or worse.

putting in a roll bar might be kinda difficult as you have taken away 2 of the rear mounting points when you removed the shock towers. but, you seem to be able to make things that shouldnt work work.

good luck with the rest of it!
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^^^ why? ill tell you why, unparralelled handling, excellent weight distribution, muscle car like traction (on acceleration)... what else can you ask for?
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first off WHY??
why does anyone modify a little 4-banger honda for speed?

Because they wants to.
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looks like a kick ass project. as amazing as this is i have to admit i am MOST interested in how you plan on accounting for all the body stiffness, and structural depletion you have created on the gsr body. i cant wait to see what ideas you come up with to add to the rigdity.
i have no doubt you can pull this off, rigidity is my only concern. but if you didnt have plenty of problems to solve, it wouldnt be much of an engineering project. Best of Luck! and keep us posted.
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Wow this project will be very entertaining to watch as it progresses! Great work so far!
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Tight man!!! Keep up the good work!!

Can't wait to see the finised product...
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Keep taking pics of the progress! Looks cool!
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Looks prettty badass man!! keep us posted
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all i can think of right now is lookin through the hatch window and seeing the motor....mmmm ferrari, keep up the good work and the pics, what are ur plans for interior and exterior, gonna make it "look" stock on teh inside? or racecar look??
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how are you going to address seating...one seat, or two?considered right hand drive?

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