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im sure he is mounting it so the header is to the front of the car and IM to the back, since thats how the engine runs.....
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I can't wait to see more pictures...AWESOME
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ok i just thought of a question how are you going to make the shifter.

anyone know a better way? The difference between the men and the boys is the price of their toys.
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preludes use a cable shift (if I'm not mistaken) so just add a couple of pullies to re-invert the shift pattern and its all golden.
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im sure he is mounting it so the header is to the front of the car and IM to the back, since thats how the engine runs.....
You are correct. The engine will be oriented just as it was in the Prelude.

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preludes use a cable shift (if I'm not mistaken) so just add a couple of pullies to re-invert the shift pattern and its all golden.
I was planning to use bellcranks, but your suggestion gives me an idea which I hadn't considered. The stock shift cables are push/pull, but it would be possible to use all pull cables coming from the shifter in both directions....Hummmm...

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I wanna see more pics... I hope it's getting closer to being finished, I can't wait to see the numbers...

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OMG...PLEASE KEEP POSTING...cant wait to see the result.

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Damn, that take some serious skills, money, time, and tool..You are one bad ass mutha..f@#%*r...
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You would think that individual exhaust pipes would kill low end torque ... but I look at it as if it were ITBs. Each port is smaller than the piping in the stock header, but total the volume is larger than the collector of the header. So, basically you don't lose low end power, while improving mid range to top end massively.

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I started off this week thinking I would be able to finish flaring the quarter panels. I put the wheels and tires on, ran them through the suspension travel, and to my surprise, found they didnt fit. The stock Prelude has 205/50/16 tires on 16x6.5, 42mm offset wheels. These tires are 24.1 overall diameter and were hitting inside the wheel well long before full bump travel. I was able to modify the wheel wells to get them to fit, but I have very little clearance, which limits tire diameter to 25. I want to use the widest wheel I can on the rear, which is 8 with 42mm offset, to clear the upright. The only way to use a wider wheel is to reduce the offset, which means all of the extra width sticks out the side and increases the quarter panel flare. The car looks very wide at the rear already, so Ive decided to use 8 42mm offset wheels. Naturally, Id like the widest tire possible on the rear, which for an 8 wheel is 235 or 245. With the 25 diameter limitation, there is one 16 tire available (245/45/16) and two 17 tires available (235/40/17 and 245/40/17). The 245/45/16 is 24.7, the 235/40/17 is 24.4, and the 245/40/17 is 24.7 diameter. Therefore Im going with the 235/40/17s on 17x8 42mm offset wheels. If I cant find what Im looking for in that size, Ill consider 17x8.5 38mm offset wheels. Im not going to do anything more to the quarters until I can test fit the new wheels and tires. I want a nice tight fit between the side wall and inner edge of the quarter panel.

I have a couple of situations to deal with on the front also. The stock size wheels and tires are rubbing the chassis rail at full lock, and, with Prelude uprights on Integra control arms, I have about -3.5 degrees camber at static ride height. So now I have to find a wheel/tire package for the front that not only fits, but also matches the style and brand of the rear wheels, at an obviously smaller size. I will also be modifying the front upper control arm mounts so I can adjust camber, caster, camber gain, roll center, and anit-dive. Ill probably end up with something very similar to what I did on the rear.

The following pics are an attempt to give a rough idea of the shape the car will have with the flared quarters. The wheels are at approximately (calculated) static ride height. The quarter panel has a clamp holding it at the wheel well, and duct tape holding it at the top. I stuck the rear bumper on and the front corner has a piece of duct tape holding it in place. The side skirts are from the Prelude, which fit perfectly length wise, and follow the contour of the bottom of the quarter flare. You can also see the excess negative camber at the front. The pics arent very good as the garage just isnt big enough to get a shot at a good angle. You have to imagine the rear tires will be about an inch wider than the 205s.













The next three pics are scans of some concept sketches done by my son Eric. Hes a junior in Mechanical Engineering at NCSU and is working on a minor in design. I am obviously very proud of him. He would tell you that these are practice sketches, but I think they are really cool. Note the four exhaust tips on the second sketch. When hes finished with the detailed side scoop designs, Ill post them and you can tell me what you think.







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Wow, the 3rd concept drawing looks like a ferrari 575 to me. It was rather exciting to see the wheels on the car, it seems to give it some life and really show the progress you're making. Awesome job and keep up the good work, as I'm sure you will.

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yeah nice sketchs, really like the 3rd one too, I hope you put that air scoop in at the bottom of the door like in the drawing! Good luck
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