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Old 10-19-2004, 12:34 PM   #211 (permalink)
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it's like jesse james monter garage, except without the funds, jesse james, and the free tools after the completion of the job on time.... hehe... lookin forward to the end product man..
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Old 10-19-2004, 01:08 PM   #212 (permalink)
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the tank is kind a small no? unless this is track only otherwise you will have to fill her up pretty often hehe...
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the tank is kind a small no? unless this is track only otherwise you will have to fill her up pretty often hehe...
The MR2 tank is 10.8 gal. and the original Integra tank is 13.2 gal. At 25 mpg, I'll have ~50 miles less range and I'll have to stop about every 4 hours on a highway trip. I thought about that before I decided to go with the MR2 tank and figured I have to stop and pee about every 4 hours anyway...

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Old 10-19-2004, 02:46 PM   #214 (permalink)
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hey, i just look back on page 14 on the rear panel area... and i recalled you said this will also be daily driven... but how are you going to put the backseats on now? and the rear interior panels won't fit either (i think).

so it will be a 2 seaters? also, i don't know if anyone asked yet (too many pages! LOL) will you replace the rear hatch glass with some kind a "vent", like metal fins vent...

finally, how would you seal the rear engine bay? i know you will put a steel firewall (that will be at the back of rear seat [still dunno how the seats will fit in]), but the TOP of the engine, how will u seal it (otherwise, smell and heat would still be emited in the interior of the car.

and how will u get heat from the heater in winter (assuming you will drive it during winter as well)? hehe...
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Old 10-19-2004, 03:00 PM   #216 (permalink)
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Bro, this is gonna be NICEEEEEEEE

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hey, i just look back on page 14 on the rear panel area... and i recalled you said this will also be daily driven... but how are you going to put the backseats on now? and the rear interior panels won't fit either (i think).
so it will be a 2 seaters?


No back seats. It will be a 2 seater. The rear panels will be trimed to fit.

Quote: codenamezero on Oct/19/04 also, i don't know if anyone asked yet (too many pages! LOL) will you replace the rear hatch glass with some kind a "vent", like metal fins vent...


There will be vents to exhaust hot air from the engine compartment, just not exactly sure how yet. The rear hatch will remain stock.

Quote: codenamezero on Oct/19/04 finally, how would you seal the rear engine bay? i know you will put a steel firewall (that will be at the back of rear seat [still dunno how the seats will fit in]), but the TOP of the engine, how will u seal it (otherwise, smell and heat would still be emited in the interior of the car.


There will be a "box" behind the seats, with removable panel(s), built around and over the engine compartment. The box will be sealed to the interior of the body with seam sealer and the removable panels will be sealed with rubber gaskets, like trunk seal material.

Quote: codenamezero on Oct/19/04 and how will u get heat from the heater in winter (assuming you will drive it during winter as well)? hehe...
The radiator will stay in front and there will be heater hoses running to the heater box under the dash.

Thanks for the great questions!
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Most of this week was spent getting the tie rods installed. The first step was to locate the inner tie rod pivot points precisely using a bump steer gauge. I needed to be able to adjust the pivot point height and tie rod length easily between bump steer measurements to zero in on the bump steer curve I was looking for. I made a bracket that I could clamp to the cross member to raise and lower the pivot point, with a bolt through a strap that was hose clamped to the tie rod for length adjustments.

This pic shows the setup on the left rear. You can see the hose clamps on the tie rod and the clamps holding the bracket to the cross member. The bump steer gauge plate is on the left with the dial indicator set at zero.



This pic of the left rear from underneath, better shows the bracket and tie rod setup. I used the original Prelude rear tie rod with the inner pivot cut off. on the Prelude, the rod length is fixed and the inner pivot adjusts toe with an eccentric. This is the second bracket I made as the first one was too flimsy. (I used a CD player mounting bracket I had left over from installing one in my í91 Si.)



Hereís another view of the adjustable tie rod setup from the rear.



This shot shows the bump steer gauge. I started off with the gauge sitting on the floor, but with the legs of the gauge fully extended, the bump steer measurements were unreliable. I used an old tabletop and some plywood sitting on a stool to raise the whole rig up as shown.



I started off at the height and length calculated from my suspension geometry drawings, which turned out to be about 10mm too high and about 25mm too long. It took about 12 iterations of measuring and adjusting to get everything just right. I actually started off on the right side, and then verified those dimensions on the left. Fortunately, and as it should be, they were the same.

This pic shows the finished tie rods. The outer ends at the top are from the Prelude and the inner ends are from the Integra front tie rods. I cut the threaded portion from the inner end of the Integra outer tie rod, machined it in the lathe to fit inside the tie rod tube, and welded it to the Prelude tie rod. The Integra inner tie rod is threaded into the modified outer ends. Nuts from the Prelude rear upper control arms are the same thread as in the ends of the Integra steering rack, which now hold the inner tie rod to fabricated brackets welded to the cross member.



I took the cross member out to weld on the inner tie rod brackets, which were fabricated from 2Ē bar stock.



This pic shows the right side bracket from the bottom side of the cross member.



This is a shot from the right end of the cross member. The front of the cross member is facing down, and the top is to the right. The bolt at the lower left is for the right rear lower control arm.



The next 2 pics show the left side of the cross member with the tie rod installed.



I made a collar to go between the inner tie rod end and mounting bracket to spread the load across the face of the bracket. You can just barely see it in this shot from below the left rear.



Now that I have the rear suspension complete, Iíve started on the quarter panel flaring process. Iím planning to use 16x8 wheels with 245/45/16 tires and I want to make sure I have no tire rub throughout the suspension travel.

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16x8 on the rears? how big are the fronts going to be?
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How far is mooresville from Wilmington? Raleigh? I want to see this thing in person.
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16x8 on the rears? how big are the fronts going to be?
Don't know yet. I'll wait till I set the car on it's wheels (16's all around) before I make that decision.

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How far is mooresville from Wilmington? Raleigh? I want to see this thing in person.
Mooresville is located at I77 exit 36, about 150 miles west of Raleigh.

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Crazy-awesome...that is all I can say.
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Quote: PMP_C_TEG on Oct/24/04How far is mooresville from Wilmington? Raleigh? I want to see this thing in person.

Mooresville is located at I77 exit 36, about 150 miles west of Raleigh.

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So you're not too far from sprice pines then. I have a house here in Wilmington and a house in spruce pines so I'm always back and fourth.
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