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Old 06-02-2003, 12:53 PM   #1 (permalink)
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*********READ ******************

Before you even THINK about creating a new
post dealing with Fuel Cutoff or Hood Relocation,
you better have spent the 10 mins to fully read
this topic which contains every scenario and every
variation of fuel cutoff in a G3

If you do not read this topic and post, you are
doing nothing but wasting everyone's time, yours
included... this topic is almost 10 years in the making
and i assure you that this topic is a complete resource


and please realize that this topic is about cheap and easy and
fast ways to protect your car (hence the "90 mins") thing. People
posting about alarms and GPS tracking and all that are not
getting the basic underlying point of this topic

********* Help within this topic ************

- vitamin_d's Hood Relo article

- Picture of the fuel pump power wire path

- Remote-Start/Turbo-Timer with fuel cutoff (w/ Updated Diagram)

- Turning off the fuel pump at the ECU instead

- Pics of before and after hood relocation

- Layers of security to slow down a thief

- Making a metal plate to protect the actual hood latch

- Using a relay because you got a switch that is too low an amperage rating



********* Other topics on this site ******

- Some common sense things to think about to avoid unwanted attention

- DIY: Main Relay Kill Switch G3

- Using a lock to stop steering wheel from turning

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Hey everyone.. seeing an increase of "looking to protect my car", not only on this site, but 2 others i visit....

with this trend i see.. i recommend, no urge, you to set aside some time and take two huge improvements to help protect your Integra....

Total cost:
- $2.50 for a small 2 position switch at Radio Shack
- $1.99 in wire

what do you get for $4.49 and 90 mins of your time? you'll get a car that:
1) Cannot have the hood opened from the outside of the car
2) Cannot move anywhere except by tow truck because the engine gets no gas

To pull off #1, follow Vitaman_D's Hood Cable Relocation article, i cannot stress enough how much a big deal this is..... the only design i have seen worse than this is in our cousins, the Civic (which is even easier to open from the outside)... this takes no money whatsoever, just a little bit of your time.. speaking from experience of having my teg stolen at one point, i can tell you that this is step #1 the thieves took to make my car ready to drive away w/o the keys

For #2, do a Fuel Cutoff setup.. while this one is a little harder to pull off.. if you can make 4 connections (preferably by solder), then you can make this huge step towards protecting your car.... there is no real step by step article on this as whoever writes it wouldn't want to give away where this switch/connection is... but i can provide a few tips:

- There is a Yellow/Green-Stripe wire running from the fuel pump (under the rear seat) all the way down to the driver kick panel area... here's the path of the wire... If you are in the kick panel or door sill, there could be two Yellow/Green wires, the THICKER of the two is the one you are after. And I cannot validate this, but later in this topic someone says that in a G2 its Yellow/Black

- Intercept/cut this wire anywhere along that line, using a voltmeter to confirm when the key is "oN", it'll show 12v, key "OFF" or "ACC", this wire shows 0v (MAKE SURE that you have the radio off, as the power antenna wire is also Yel/Green)

- Extend each side of the cut to a switch location that is out-of-the-way/out-of-sight, yet easily and everyday-use accessible. I'll be honest in saying the switch location shown first in the link above is a bad location as the thief will easily find it

- Make sure the wiring is away from sharp metal, pieces that move, etc... if it is, protect/secure it so they won't be a problem

- Switch off: no fuel pump power, Switch on: fuel pump works as designed

- PLEASE NOTE: Make sure you purchase a switch that can handle 10 amps of current!! Any thing less will lead to failure of it resulting in: no fuel because the pump can't turn on


Amazing what less than $5 can do for you...... if the work seems intimating, make a day of it with some fellow TI people and help each other out doing the cars for everyone...... you'll all learn something and also have a better protected car

Good luck.. need any questions answered about the above.. post right here... but please, read first
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Old 06-02-2003, 01:05 PM   #2 (permalink)
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Listen to MZ it does work!!! I have done both of these to my teg and they do work.
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I have been puting this off for too long. I plan on getting this stuff done this week. And I recommend everyone else to do this also. I worry too much about my car being stolen/messed with whenever I go out. At least this gives you a sense of security when your not inside your teg.
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I'm just not seeing it. How does that make it harder to open the hood? How do thiefs do it in the first place? If they get inside the car they can still pull the hood switch right? Somebody hip me to this stuff would ya please?
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I'm just not seeing it. How does that make it harder to open the hood? How do thiefs do it in the first place? If they get inside the car they can still pull the hood switch right? Somebody hip me to this stuff would ya please?
A thief doesn't have to get inside the car to open the hood. The hood cable is accessible from the outside of the vehicle, making it easy for a thief to simply pop the cable. Rerouting the cable will make it harder to open from the outside.
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I did the relocating hood cable mod today and it all went great!! Now I feel a little bit more secure about my car.. To everyone who hasnt done it, DO IT!.. its very easy. took me about 20-30 mins. Now the next step is the fuel kill switch. I am kinda scared? to do this mod? I am scared of messing something up.. plus I am not good at soldering =/
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If you just pop the hood you can cut the alarm, but if you break the window to cut the alarm itll make noise..
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If a thief wants to break into your car, they can break the window or jimmy the door and get in. If you have an alarm it will be going off now. They then pull the hood lever and disconnect the battery and the alarm stops. This is risky as the alarm is going off for a few seconds.

What they may prefer to do is disconnect the alarm and then break into the car. They achieve this by ripping off the fender lining, grabbing the hood cable, opening the hood and disconnecting the battery. Now your alarm won't go off and they have all the time in the world to break into your car.
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I did both things yesterday, and everything went great!!
The "hood cable relocation" was easy. And the "fuel
cut-off switch went rather well too. And, it took me around 90 minutes also. Its amazing how only 90 minutes of my time can help keep a robber from taking my vehicle. If you haven't done these things already, DO THEM!!!!!!

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i still say shaving your door handles and disconneting your power locks is safer
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in what way do you believe that will:
1) stop someone from getting into your engine bay without ever getting in your car
2) stop someone from slim-jimming their way into your car

When they stole my car, they never messed with the door key entry, i can tell they just slimmed it

and besides.. shaving your door handles is a at least 10 times more than $4.49 in parts and 90 mins now, isnt it
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I have been putting this off for way to long, First nice weekend im doing the hood re-location because thats what they TRIED to do as well to my car back in march. Fuel cut-off im gonna need some help with. Take his advice and do it guys.
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Hey MZ, i got a question, if i setup the fuel cutoff, then does that means that i cannot use my auto-starter anymore? right?
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If the fuel is cutoff, then no you wont be able to use it. If you leave it on, you can start it. But that defeats the purpose of the cutoff.lol
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