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Old 08-21-2007, 09:59 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Alright guys, i need some help here. I'm stuck between two clutches which i can get farely cheap from local sale. The first is a Competition stage 4 and the other is an ACT street clutch. Can i get some opinions on both? i.e. which pressure plate is better and why? what the two discs are made out of? life expectancy? what kind of problems people have with each? what kind of pedal you get out of each? any input would be great.
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unless you are pushing some serious power the stage 4 is way overkill and will only serve to make daily driving strenuous
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i do realize it is over kill but i can get it for $200, and it only has 2 passes on it and he's giving me a brand new pressure plate. (it came off a 11 second civic hatch, 420 whp) i'm only running 185whp.My question is would it hurt anything with it on my car?
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some of those questions should be directed to the companies.. but a stage 4 comp. to a street act? that's

here's a comp. link to their clutches: http://www.philsinc.com/competitionclutch.html that should explain a couple questions.. with a little butter for marketing.

http://www.advancedclutch.com/produc...sureplates.asp

surf their sites.. but a stage 4 is not streetable.. or it won't be great as a DD..
All depends on what you're running now, and what your goals are.. budget too
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why exactly do you say it wont be great as a daily driver? what kind of problem would i have? Hard pedal? quick engagement?
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Old 08-21-2007, 10:18 PM   #6 (permalink)
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surf their sites.. but a stage 4 is not streetable.. or it won't be great as a DD..
Clearly you don't have a stage 4 clutch. Comments like this piss me off because clearly you have no idea what you are talking about and on top of that, you are giving advice based on your ignorance.

To the OP, I have a competition stage 4 in my car. I have put over 30,000 miles on it daily driven and drag raced. I love the clutch and if it were to fail tomorrow, I'd buy the exact same one. My GSR came with some stage 1 clutch (I think Exedy or something) and my LS (with the stage 4) is way easier and more comfortable to drive.

It definitely grabs a little quicker when pulling away from a stop, but within a week, it will be natural again.
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dude... yes it will..
you do not want a stage 4 on a <200hp/tq car.. its WAY overkill it'll do more harm then good, and impractical.. it'll make noise b/c of the type of clutch(not company) and it will grab on so hard, you'll be wheel hopping all the way to 3rd gear.
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for a street car try the Competition stage 2 clutch. very very good clutch and can take alot of abused during launch.
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Quote: Meshca on Aug/21/07surf their sites.. but a stage 4 is not streetable.. or it won't be great as a DD..

Clearly you don't have a stage 4 clutch. Comments like this piss me off because clearly you have no idea what you are talking about and on top of that, you are giving advice based on your ignorance.

To the OP, I have a competition stage 4 in my car. I have put over 30,000 miles on it daily driven and drag raced. I love the clutch and if it were to fail tomorrow, I'd buy the exact same one. My GSR came with some stage 1 clutch (I think Exedy or something) and my LS (with the stage 4) is way easier and more comfortable to drive.

It definitely grabs a little quicker when pulling away from a stop, but within a week, it will be natural again.


sorry should of put IMO on the post, cause it was just my opinion, i've been in cars that have agressive clutches and i've read a few things on them too, i have a stage 1 competition and love it, but a stage 4 for our stock motors is overkill, i'll get you a link from cons/pros of getting clutches that are like that.. i'm busy right now
don't flame me, it wasn't on ignorance but from things i read of this site and from ACT interviews, i'm sorry if htey spoke out of ignorance and not their own experience.
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The problem is, dude, is that you are going off of things you have READ not actually done.
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like i said guys, i'd be getting a good deal on this clutch, if its usable and will not cause harm i'm gonna get it. I didn't mention that my motor isn't completely stock and i do drag just about every weekend.

CJ, glad to hear you've put 30,000 on it and have had no trouble.

Now remember guys this was to help decide between the COMPETITIoN STAGE 4 or the ACT STREET clutch.
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If you're going to say something like "stage 4 is not streetable", then please back it up with some facts and personal experiences.

objectivity is king here.
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Old 08-21-2007, 10:47 PM   #13 (permalink)
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deleted my posts until i have what i read infront of me and past experiences from me n my friends. didn't have time to look it up or bother my friend about the exact facts.. i apologize
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wow cj...seems a little excessive for a moderator...it was JUST an opinion...

but i had a stage 3 clutch in my car, and albeit different from a stage 4, it definitely was a good clutch and was streetable.
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